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Bob Carter wrote:

Robert wrote:Dammit! Who won?

PS A good day for the over 60s

Cheers Bob, rub it in why don't you. My leg fell off before I could even get the mast up. Hence the avatar.

Thanks to all at QM for a great day on the water. Thanks to Gordon and George for their hosting duties and the very, very nice man who helped me recover my boat on that slippy slipway.
I enjoyed my little swim on the first beat of the first race. I couldn't resist a quick dip in the tropical climes which so often elude us up here in the frozen north. It was sleeting when I left home this morning. Who would have thought the weather at QM could be so balmy! Wish I'd taken my shorty (the one with the turn-ups).
I am still interrogating the results to see just how much Carsington thrashed Draycote once again. It is proving a little tricky but I'm sure we'll come up with the right answer very shortly (Ray - Help!!!!)
Thanks again for a great day out

Thanks from Gordon and me for the kind words, recognising that we put on weather that northerners would enjoy, and southerners and foreigners from off shore islands expect to encounter further north on the mainland. Pity the wind was lighter than forecast, with the cold temperarture and the light rain generating significant wind chill, and the rain so persistent in its irresistible power to stick tell-tales to sails! (It benefitted those who could "feel" the right beating angle in the absence of tell-tale info, which might have had some effect on the results.)

We apologise for the muddles over the results. The first set were prepared without knowledge given to the RO of Steve's and Kevin's boat swap between races. These results were then revised in a hurry, with the consequence that the results provided at prizegiving (?and taken by George Love et al?) for the non-DXs alone were not right as the DX results were incorrectly removed from the overall results. This affected some results for non-DXers - the principal one being that Stuart Snell was promoted from 4th to 3rd, with Peter Slater moving down to 4th from 3rd (Peter knew this before he left Queen Mary, but I'm sure we heard the cheers from Carsington!). There were no other changes in the top 6, but some minor swaps further down the fleet - I didn't take a copy of the correct results home so I can't supply a full set here. The final results involved 2 pairs tied on points (Stuart and Peter 3rd/4th, ?Liam? and ?Jan? 10th/11th) and another 3 boats tied on the same points - all of which had to be settled on aggregate (corrected) time as per Series Rules.

As regards Robert's putting the stick in about the postponed start of the first race, the DX boats were well last to be ready to get launched - I think that Gordon and I would have been well on time but for helping them get on the water and away. The DX Sport boats weren't really quick on the water either, finishing barely ahead of the leading unarig boats in both races despite their significantly larger sail area - many of us had expected them to benefit more significantly in the light conditions.

So the DX is not really a big threat after all? Except that it takes a bit longer to rig and therefore appeals to some of the OCD string twiddlers amongst us, perhaps. I take it that Carsington won, then?

Bob Carter wrote:

Robert wrote:Dammit! Who won?

Erling won, George Stephen 2nd and Stuart Snell 3rd.
Cheers
Bob
PS A good day for the over 60s

So here is the report by Gordon for the impatient ones..................

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=155786

Well done to QM's for organising a great event with both wind and warm weather I just about warmed up in the car on the way back to Coventry . I can't believe that our boy Pete Slater has been demoted to 4th place , is this a further development in the Carsington / Draycote challenge I think the DX boys should come back to sport mode and give me some competition , I had to resort to a single sail this week as I have been feeling very lonely sporting on my own

Derek,

We at Queen Mary maintain a strictly correct approach in the preparation of results for events held at the Club. We are definitely neutral when it comes to any inter-club rivalry in this respect. Peter's and Jan's loss of a place were a function of strict application of the Winter Traveller Event scoring. Immediately after the prize-giving, Howard noticed an error in the results for the second race, and I picked up errors in the results for the first race. We worked out that this was due to incorrect exclusion of the results for DX boats, and then the results were redone properly (and quickly). The correct elimination of the DX boats resulted in the Peter Slater/Stuart Snell and Jan Elfring/Liam Thom pairs each becoming equal on points from the 2 races - and the aggregate times in both cases happened to be less for the non-Carsington boats in each pair, with the result that both Carsington sailors dropped a place compared with the incorrect results you saw at Queen Mary.

I can only apologise again that the rush to correct the results prepared from the RO's returns, which hadn't taken account of Kevin and Steve swapping boats between races, resulted in an error in the Sprint 15 only results - somone tried to cut a corner when excluding the DX results and got it wrong.

I'm going to post a comment about more Sport boats at Travellers in the DX thread.